[tomwphillips]

A while back I think I heard you on a podcast describing these pain points. Experienced them myself; sounded like a compelling solution. I remember Dagger docs being all about AI a year or two ago, and frankly it put me off, but that seems to have gone again. Is your focus back to CI?

[shykes]

Yes, we are re-focused on CI. We heard loud and clear that we should pick a lane: either a runtime for AI agents, or deterministic CI. We pick CI.

Ironically, this makes Dagger even more relevant in the age of coding agents: the bottleneck increasingly is not the ability to generate code, but to reliably test it end-to-end. So the more we all rely on coding agents to produce code, the more we will need a deterministic testing layer we can trust. That's what Dagger aspires to be.

For reference, a few other HN threads where we discussed this:

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46734553

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46268265

[tomwphillips]

That's good - I'll reconsider Dagger.

Yes, I agree on your assessment. AI means a higher rate of code changes, so you need more robust and fast CI.