[mindslight]

But does that framing have predictive utility? Which would you say resonates more with voters, especially the middle/upper-middle class voters with skin in both games - "Healthcare reform is going to make your retirement account shrink" or "Healthcare reform is going to take away your employer plan and replace it with the same option the poors get" ?

Also my additional point is that nobody really thinks we need to create additional jobs for doctors, as we've currently got a dire shortage of healthcare. I just inquired about rescheduling a primary care visit for my aunt and the office told me they're scheduling out an entire year from now. That's obviously not the same as how soon they could see her for something urgent, but the sheer magnitude of that delay does highlight a problem. I've also seen many 4+ month waits for specialist appointments.