[xienze]

> The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read.

Can you blame them? All the AI companies are saying “this does a better job than you ever could”, every discussion topic on AI includes at least one (totally organic, I’m sure) comment along the lines of “I’ve been developing software for over twenty years and these tools are going to replace me in six months. I’m learning how to be a plumber before I’m permanently unemployed.” So when Claude spits out something that seems to work with a short smoke test, how can you blame developers for thinking “damn the hype is real. LGTM”?

[keybored]

This is correct. And at this point (and I think you agree?) we have to take that critical thinking skill and stop letting it just happen to us.

It might seem hopeless. But on the other hand the innate human BS detector is quite good. Imagine the state of us if we could be programmed by putting billions of dollars into our brains and not have any kind of subconscious filter that tells us, hey this doesn’t seem right. We’ve already tried that for a century. And it turns out that the cure is not billions of dollars of counter-propaganda consisting of the truth (that would be hopeless as the Truth doesn’t have that kind of money).

We don’t have to be discouraged by whoever replies to you and says things like, oh my goodness the new Siri AI replaced my parenting skills just in the last two weeks, the progress is astounding (Siri, the kids are home and should be in bed by 21:00). Or by the hypothetical people in my replies insisting, no no people are stupid as bricks; all my neighbors buy the propaganda of [wrong side of the political aisle]. Etc. etc. ad nauseam.

[jf22]

I'm an 99% organic person (I suppose I have tooth fillings) and the new models write code better than I do.

I've been using LLMS for 14+ months now and they've exceeded my expectations.

[xienze]

So are you learning a trade? Or do you somehow think you’ll be one of the developers “good enough” to remain employed?

[jf22]

I have a physical goods side hustle already and I'm brainstorming ideas about a trade I can do that will benefit from my programming experience.

I'm thinking HVAC or painting lines in parking lots. HVAC because I can program smart systems and parking lot lines because I can use google maps and algos to propose more efficient parking lot designs to existing business owners.

There is that paradox when if something becomes cheaper there is more demand so we'll see what happens.

Finally, I'm a mediocre dev that can only handle 2-3 agents at a time so I probably won't be good enough.

[HoldOnAMinute]

Not only do they exceed expectations, but any time they fall down, you can improve your instructions to them. It's easy to get into a virtuous cycle.

[bluefirebrand]

> Can you blame them?

Yes I absolutely can and do blame them