[fidotron]

Using an LLM to automate is simply the newer cheaper outsourcing with much of the same entertainment, but less food poisoning and air travel.

Over the last 20 years a lot of engineering (proper eng, not software) work in the west has been outsourced to cheaper places, with the certified engineers simply signing off on the work done elsewhere. This results in a cycle of doing things ever faster/more cheaply and safeguards disappearing under the pressure to go ever cheaper and faster.

As someone else pointed out, LLMs have just really exposed what a degraded state we have headed into rather than being a cause of it themselves. It's going to be very tough for people with no standards - they'll enjoy cheap stuff for a while and then it will all go away. Surprised Pikachu faces all round.

(I'm pro AI btw, just be responsible.)

[Sharlin]

LLMs also solve the timezone and language challenges. Sadly one problem that remains is that they too tell you they have understood something even if they haven't.

[mtrovo]

At least that's the story LLM labs leaders wanna tell everyone, just happen to be a very good story if you wanna hype your valuation before investment rounds.

Working with LLM on a daily basis I would say that's not happening, not as they're trying to sell it. You can get rid of a 5 vendor headcount that execute a manual process that should have been automated 10 years ago, you're not automating the processes involving high paying people with a 1% error chance where an error could cost you +10M in fines or jail time.

When I see Amodei or Sam flying on a vibe coded airplane is the day I believe what they're talking about.

[fidotron]

Aero software people are not highly paid. It's a travesty.