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> On apple I get those by default just by using the same apple id on the devices. It's not a principled comparison but a practical one between using these systems.

Right. That's why you're complaining about how they don't work.

Anyway, I never suggested that Linux is better at "just works."

Instead, I suggested that -all- of them have issues and further posited that, on Linux, those issues are actionable.

I am disinclined to defend a position that I do not hold.