[dgellow]

Right, I missed that part. Then get the mini if you prefer it. I’m in the camp of people who hate large phones, the day they remove the SE form factor is the day I switch to android. IMHO the 5S form factor was perfected, any change after that is unnecessary. And I also love having a physical button on my SE, I hope that device will survive for a very long time as I’m not optimistic we will have such options in the future :(

Small form factor and security updates are literally my only criteria for phones.

[BuckRogers]

That's where I'm at, it's about time to replace my 12 mini and it's looking like it's time to go back to Android. It was form factor (iPhone 5) that moved me to the iPhone to begin with. That and back then, iOS had a lot more advantages like longterm support and higher quality apps. Most every advantage that isn't a bald faced attempt at lock-in is gone now.