[pjmlp]

20 years ago, I would still have bought a Mac, nowadays they don't sell any hardware that I would pay for.

I don't pay extra for have less options than on PC hardware, my desktop and laptops can be upgraded at will and without gunpoint prices (forgetting about the whole AI stuff that affects everyone anyway), thus all my use of Apple hardware is project specific and taken from the company's hardware pool.

[SOLAR_FIELDS]

This is such a weird take because it’s pretty well established that if you just need an average computing device that apples cheapest options are often dollar for dollar per compute efficiency way better than the competition.

If you need anything other than a base configuration that’s not true anymore because apple makes stupid money on their $200 upgrades of 8 gb of ram but if you are a low grade consumer who doesn’t need anything other than the base configuration you would be hard pressed to convince me that the base models of their products are worse value than their non apple equivalents

[pjmlp]

No they aren't, because Apple doesn't offer good gaming options, memory or hard disk sizes at comparable PC prices in tier 2, tier 3, .... world economies, only the rich kids of such nations can afford Apple prices.

It is only well established on the minds of those earning US salaries, or living in countries of similar economies, G8 style.