[neonstatic]

Thank you. Sounds like things have not improved in the Apple land since I made my purchase. I just wonder what the "normal" fan level is like. Sure, if I load up an LLM locally and talk to it for a while, I can get my M1 Max to spin fans audibly, but I have to really be determined to do that. I also own a 2024 HP Spectre laptop. Fan noise starts the moment I press the power button and doesn't stop until it shuts down. So I suppose my question here is not so much how loud the Windows competition is at some heavy workload task, but is it "fanless" for most / all daily tasks just like my M1 Max is in practice. I spend a lot of time compiling Rust code - zero noise.

I appreciate that price is a concern, but for me it's a secondary concern. Not that I am loaded or anything, with the Macbook I am confident I will be using the device for 5+ years. Being very sensitive to noise, I'd rather pay up than be upset for the next few years.