[latexr]

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device.

The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

[dewey]

That's fair, but in my experience for many people the camera and/or battery are the main reasons to upgrade to a new phone (Also the reason why the presentations focus on the camera for a big chunk of time usually I'd guess) so if they want to compete with that it makes sense to have a decent camera.

[crote]

It is enabled by smartphone reviewers excluding it from thickness measurements. I bet camera bumps would be a lot less prominent if they were clearly represented.

[SoftTalker]

Same. I rarely use the camera. I almost never take photos and when I do it's like a serial number or something that I just don't want to write down.

I do sometimes use the video for remote meetings but I don't care about picture quality for those.

[c0balt]

You might like the Pixel 10a/9a, they have an almost flush back. For this thread, not european but instead GrapheneOS capable.