[pjmlp]

Nokia N900 was really great, Jolla has some of the former team people.

I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great.

That Burning Memo was really a downer.

[Zigurd]

"Burning the boats," in the form of getting rid of Jolla (and whatever happened to Meego) is one of those management aphorisms that needs to die. As it turns out, having an alternative to Windows phone would've been a better decision. No guarantee of success, but less of an irrecoverable failure at least. Where is that Elop guy now?

[koiueo]

Enjoying his golden parachute

[asveikau]

I'll say one good thing in hindsight about Elop. He's not all over the Epstein files like another MS executive of the era.

Edit: Wow, I tried to be discrete and not mention him by name but I notice every time I mention Steven Sinofsky was close to Epstein I get downvoted a lot here. Look at this one I found searching for "elop" for example: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA006576...

[Zigurd]

As long as they weren't under-age I could tolerate a couple of Russian prostitutes peeing on him in exchange for a commercially viable Nokia handset business.

[MrDrMcCoy]

Anyone with the means to travel to Epstein's private island had the means to travel to a place where prostitution is legal and do what you want with legitimacy. You only would have gone through him if you wanted someone trafficked. Age of the "prostitute" can only make association worse, never OK.

[asveikau]

I think this person is joking. For one, they're mixing metaphors between Epstein and the rumored Trump pee tape, then tying it into Nokia where neither seems to apply.

[koiueo]

I'm not really sure how Epstein files are related to Elop making a malicious (some say, stupid, but I don't believe it) decision. But I'm gonna use this argument from now on, relevant or not.

– they dropped production – at least they are not in Epstein files, like some other people

– they drove over speed limit! - at least they are not in Epstein files

[asveikau]

I thought the n900 did some things better than the n9. The biggest problem was lack of portrait mode. I didn't understand at the time why they didn't "just" tweak the n900 ui instead of rewriting everything.

[dm319]

Loved my N900 also, it was peak phone for me.

But more importantly, we need an alternative to two big tech companies who are cranking the enshittification dial right up while also remaining under a particular country's laws.