[b112]

And the radio firmware.

From a phone by a Chinese company.

Unless GrapheneOS handles the radio firmware, not really interested.

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They address this issue specifically (don't have the links now, I'm sorry) - basically one of the "must haves" for the hardware to be considered good enough (meaning pixels have it and new motos will have it) is a hardware capability of the strict separation between the os and devices, ie baseband unable to influence the os (snoop/inject stuff, etc).

Don't remember that at the moment, it should be one of the requirements they list under "future hardware" In the FAQ.

[froh42]

What's the difference compared to a phone with a radio firmware by a US company?

In both cases it's something closed and the government has shown overreach. (Yes, China a lot more than the US, but still ... things are not looking good a the moment. And I have no more trust, even if the political direction changes for a presidency period or two.)

But yes, ultimately we want open source firmware. Still, then there could be hardware backdoors anyways ...

[b112]

I as a Canadian, lack trust too for the US these days.

And there are indeed issues.

Yet these issues are perhaps 1 foot high, and the issues with China and PRC's interference in domestic corporations, reaches to the moon.

There's literally no comparison. Even now.

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I dont think grapheneos handles radio firmware on pixels, radios also not made in the US. I wonder if even apple does, as their radios are also not made in US.