[cmckn]

To be fair, setting up a new iPhone (without restoring from backup) is a pretty long-winded process these days. You have to make about 50 decisions on various features, tap through numerous info screens, set up Face ID, Apple Pay, voice recognition, etc. etc. It feels like every team at Apple wants something in the onboarding flow.

[nomel]

All of those security related screens you listed is why I like Apple: security related things are local to secure enclave, not in cloud.

[LtWorf]

Keep in mind apple famously never fixes these bugs that let the phone be rooted via a 0click attack starting from imessage, which inexplicably runs with elevated privileges.

I mean they fix one when it gets known but keep the issue there, which is why there have been several of these.

[dangus]

And Apple sometimes re-asks you with minor point releases a selection of those questions even though you’ve already answered.

[alexdbird]

This often tells you a key has been invalidated due to updated security logic.

[dangus]

Interesting reasoning that I never thought of, though it doesn’t change the fact that this kind of stuff deters my non-technical family members from updating

Every update for them is like an exercise in anxiety and fear.

[Tzk]

actually you can skip most of these, but get reduced functionality in return. You can skip faceID/touchID, unlock code, appleID. You can’t skip terms, some customization options and, data collection and privacy settings.

In theory you can use iPhone and iPad without apple account - basically as dumb phone. But of course you won’t get AppStore access.

[zadikian]

I think the point is that you can skip all those, but it's still 50 screens. There's no "skip all and go directly to my home screen" button.