[adamsmark]

iOS now has a ton of dialogs and set up steps and the occasional dark pattern in selling you various cloud based subscriptions to Apples various services.

Having said all that, yes Android is pretty bad. I think it's the in the nature of platform owners to get their hooks into yoh as much as possible.

When I set up Linux Mint, there was none of this.

[cmiles74]

It took a good while for me to figure out that a family member had inadvertently signed up for an Apple Music account that they were not using.

[iririririr]

Apple going from being "the new microsoft" to being "the new AOL"