[patrickk]

So much of both parties is actually alike, underneath a window dressing of differences (eg woke/anti woke), and a complicit media which does its best to amplify and brainwash people into believing. When it comes to policies that actually affect the elites, the deep state military industrial complex/intelligence services or financial interests, it is a uniparty. Look at how Obama continued the war on terror for example, after running on “hope and change”.

[cosmicgadget]

I am curious what your plan would be for Obama to extricate us from the GWOT and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[patrickk]

Several military leaders expressed surprise at how gung-ho Obama was with foreign policy regarding the gwot. He literally executed an American citizen via drone. He didn’t even pay lip service to hope and change. Dubya also ran on a non-interventionist platform, and Trump ran on “drain the swap” and non-interventionism as well.

Anyway this is missing the wood for the trees. The point is, the uniparty very much exists, despite the downvotes. Foreign policy, bailing out banks, bowing down to the military industrial complex are very much remarkably consistent uniparty positions.

[cosmicgadget]

I am curious what your plan would be for Obama to extricate us from the GWOT and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[rightbyte]

How about just bailing and having people falling of planes? Why would there need to be a good way to "extricate" from a ludicrous mess?

[cosmicgadget]

Without a doubt it's a "least worst" scenario. The best solution is to not empower the people who got us there. A distant second is to not give them back control eight years later.

I'm still interested to hear of a better c.2009 peace plan.