[JumpCrisscross]

> conducting a live-streamed genocide

For what it's worth, I think the American activists on this issue bungled the messaging to disastrous effect (in the same way we bungled criminal-justice reform). It's a saturated issue with low political salience outside a specific (and increasingly constrained) demographic.

A win in Iran will be a short-term boost, in America and in Israel. Then we'll go back to being pissed about rising prices.

[Cyph0n]

The activism worked. Polling shows that support for Israel is dwindling especially among the younger population.

[flyinglizard]

When it comes to Israel, polling was always lower in younger populations, although yes - the trend worsened.

Israel chose to trade popularity for having real geopolitical gains on the ground. Popularity could be won back later, but removing the Iranian ring of fire around it is a real and tangible achievement that would last decades and change the Middle East.

[Cyph0n]

You make it sound as if Israel merely made a few PR blunders.. They’ve killed 10s of thousands of Palestinian children.

This is not salvageable without justice and accountability.

[reliabilityguy]

> You make it sound as if Israel merely made a few PR blunders.. They’ve killed 10s of thousands of Palestinian children.

> This is not salvageable without justice and accountability.

Do Palestinians have to be held accountable for their actions?

[Cyph0n]

No. Any other questions, or do you want to just continue feigning interest in having an actual conversation?

[reliabilityguy]

> No. Any other questions, or do you want to just continue feigning interest in having an actual conversation?

This is an actual question. It seems to me that you only care about Arabs dying. Jews can die left and right in the hands of Arabs and you won’t blink an eye. Am I correct?

I just want to clarify it for others who reads your comments to see.

[fortzi]

Why not?

[nebula8804]

Define 'younger populations', millenials are in their 40s now...

[moxifly7]

About a third of American Jews now agree that Israel is an apartheid state and committing genocide against Palestinians.

It remains to be seen what impact this will have, but it will certainly impact the ability for everyone to claim that criticism of Israel and sympathy for Palestinians is motivated by antisemitism.

The democrats lost the last election in part because of their stance on Israel.

With a bit of luck this could lead to a shift in policy within a generation.

[thrance]

American "activists" (didn't know being anti-genocide was a fringe belief but here we are) clearly won the narrative. Most Americans now oppose what Israel is doing in Gaza and want all support to this country to stop ASAP. This support for Israel cost Harris the election, as shown in their latest post-mortem of the 2024 election, and is making Trump and his administration ever more unpopular.

[propagandist]

Sure, it's the activists' fault. Not the people who committed this genocide in our government.