[timhh]

> the capabilities are so far mostly just talk

lol what? They've caught and successfully reflown the super heavy booster, and they've mostly successfully done a soft landing of Starship in the sea. How is that remotely "just talk"?

[margalabargala]

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, things like delivering a real payload or orbiting the earth.

Yes they've reflown a caught rocket, and they've soft landed in the ocean. I can do those things with a paper airplane.

[pennomi]

Not at orbital speeds you can’t. You’re being deliberately obtuse.

[margalabargala]

I'm being hyperbolic about the paper airplanes, but I stand by my original point.

It is simultaneously true that Starship's capabilities are on track, and are at this moment just talk. I would bet that Starship will deliver within 10% of claimed specs, before 2030. But none of those have currently been proven.