[tonyedgecombe]

It’s an inconvenient truth that the better off don’t want to face up to. Your environmental impact is going to be correlated to your consumption. More spending == more damage.

Something to bear in mind when you are being told environmental damage is being caused by the poor or some foreign country.

[CalRobert]

There are some scenarios where it’s a coordination problem. People could drive light fuel efficient vehicles if so many other people weren’t driving large, heavy, dangerous ones, for example.

[b40d-48b2-979e]

Those large heavy vehicles are incentivized by loopholes in regulations because politicians were afraid of affecting "domestic jobs" as US automakers weren't even trying to compete with JP fuel-efficient imports.

[CalRobert]

Yeah, apparently it was originally to try to stop the rules from killing Jeep, which was having a hard time. New ones that allow more emissions for bigger vehicle footprints are also a big issue since it encourages larger vehicles.

[expedition32]

There's not much point in being better off if you don't use that money for a holiday to Japan.

After all most of us work hard so that we can buy things.

[tonyedgecombe]

As I said more spending == more damage:

https://iere.org/how-tourists-affect-the-environment/

[deaux]

You could work less hard and buy less things, spending the time and energy you save by working less hard on more enjoyable things than buying more stuff.