[manyaoman]

> By the wide definition of of "the people who stole your land" that you're using (meaning, no Hamas person checked who stole what land), almost everyone on earth is someone who stole someone's land. If not now, than in the previous generation. In my case as an Israeli, ~4 generations ago.

Thanks for saying that (not sarcasm, I mean it). Peace can only start when both sides admit they’ve done wrong too.

[sosomoxie]

Would you say both sides did wrong with the Nazis vs Jews? This is an identical situation (possibly worse since the Zionists actively invaded Palestine to commit genocide).

[yoavm]

It is not identical, and it not even similar situation. You are sick in your head to compare the killing of 6 million people, unarmed, in gas chambers, with two nations that have a strong link to a place fighting over the land. The Jews never had anything against Germany - on the contrary, they wanted to integrate in it. Jews have real a historical connection to the land that even a Quran believer cannot deny, not to mention an archeologist.

Your failure to see things through the eyes of the other side is exactly the kind of thing that makes the Middle East a terrible place to live in.

[sosomoxie]

The power differential between Zionists and Palestinians is much more extreme than Nazis and Jews. Zionists also have incredible control over my country (the US) than the Nazis ever did. In the 21st century Zionism is much worse than Nazism (which isn't even around any more in a significant way).

[yoavm]

No, the Nazis had an army that took over all of Europe and some of Africa. The Jews had no weapons at all. Palestinians have weapons, they receive support in military training, and often coordinated their attacks with other armies from the countries surrounding Israel.

The "influence over the US" metric is ridiculous, the US was an enemy of the Nazis, of course they didn't have control over it. It's like saying the Nazis never had such a strong influence over Iran as the Palestinians do.

[sosomoxie]

Prior to WWII the Jews were so powerful that the Rothschilds were able to get the UK to give them Palestine. The Balfour Agreement is very well documented. The Palestinians can't even return to their homes stolen from them during the Nakba.

[manyaoman]

It doesn't even need to involve an actual wrongdoing, even a Holocaust survivor might admit that Jews being a socially separate group in Europe may have contributed to the Nazis scapegoating them (just stating a widely accepted fact, not blaming the victims). A 100% victim mindset is rarely helpful.