[Eldodi]

There are very few stateful MCP Servers out there, and the standard is moving towards stateless by default.

What is really making MCP stand out is:

- oauth integration

- generalistic IA assistants adoption. If you want to be inside ChatGPT or Claude, you can't provide a CLI.

[miroljub]

> What is really making MCP stand out is:

> - oauth integration

I don't see a reason a cli can't provide oauth integration flow. Every single language has an oauth client.

> - generalistic IA assistants adoption. If you want to be inside ChatGPT or Claude, you can't provide a CLI.

This is actually a valid point. I solved it by using a sane agent harness that doesn't have artificial restrictions, but I understand that some people have limited choices there and that MCP provides some benefits there.

Same story as SOAP, even a bad standard is better than no standard at all and every vendor rolling out their own half-baked solution.

[zachrip]

Oauth with mcp is more than just traditional oauth. It allows dynamic client registration among other things, so any mcp client can connect to any mcp server without the developers on either side having to issue client ids, secrets, etc. Obviously a cli could use DCR as well, but afaik nobody really does that, and again, your cli doesn't run in claude or chatgpt.

[brookst]

Stateful at the application layer, not the transport layer. There are tons of stateful apps that run on UDP. You can build state on top of stateless comms.