[parhamn]

I'm not from California but this to me seems like a great case to move to California. Why not ship your externality creating activities elsewhere? Its not like they pay more for the iPhone.

[jameson]

Consider housing price and state tax as well

[georgeecollins]

And don't forget the strict laws that prevent people from leaving and require them to complain instead.

[kg]

As someone who moved out of California a few years ago I assure you that it is exceedingly easy to move to a different state, assuming you have the money to move at all.

[georgeecollins]

Good to hear and I hope and I suspect you are doing well. People leaving is good for other states and good for affordability of California.

[Take8435]

Sure. A state where housing is dirt cheap and no taxes is great, but if something happens to you, good luck finding a hospital or municipal services. Job prospects are also something to consider.

Just because houses cost more and there's a state tax, doesn't mean it's _bad_.

[atestu]

They do pay more for the iPhone, they have the highest state sales tax in the US.

[tstrimple]

This is easily demonstrated to be wrong. California isn't in the top 5 highest. The top 5 being:

1. Louisiana 10.11%

2. Tennessee 9.61%

3. Washington 9.51%

4. Arkansas 9.46%

5. Alabama 9.46%

Crazy how we never hear pithy drops about sales tax in Louisiana. I wonder why that is literally never a talking point in these discussions? Probably a very similarly motivated reason as to why people rant about murder in Chicago but never Memphis.

[atestu]

You're combining state and local sales tax. State sales tax in Louisiana is 4.45%. Some municipalities add nothing on top of that, some add more. I said California's state sales tax is the highest and that's true.

[reliabilityguy]

> Why not ship your externality creating activities elsewhere?

Like where?

[runjake]

Like the places where people welcome deregulation and jobs?

Not trying to sound like a jerk but there’s plenty of places in the US where people welcome stuff like coal mines and polluting factories.

If the factories have to be somewhere and they consent, then why not there?

[culi]

corporations taking hold of small local governments and passing laws that benefit them, unbeknownst to the locals living there, is hardly "consent"

[tolerance]

Can’t help but feel like you’re overestimating the competency of the average voter in these effected areas; a breath after yours—though not necessarily your own—may condemn these people for being undereducated, out of touch with culture or subject to corporate grifters.

[anon-3988]

There's this country called China that you guys been offshoring manufacturing to...

[reliabilityguy]

Unless you are from China, your jurisdiction offshores to China as well.

[tokenless]

Well the attitude that puts a full stop (well a question mark) after "NIMBY" says implicity "where the poors live".

[reliabilityguy]

Well, I find it a bit hypocritical: if those things are so bad, why to forbid manufacturing and not consumption? Otherwise you just pollute a place where people that have no say live.