[danans]

> One nice thing about what’s happening is that politics are losing to reality. I’m not even sure how this became a left vs right issue in the first place (isn’t the right meant to be pro free market!?)

No, the right isn't meant to be pro free-market. It's meant to protect the interests, longevity, and demand-capture of its donor industries, primarily fossil fuels extraction, processing, and distribution, but increasingly large technology companies in monopoly positions in their markets.

All the "free-market" to "culture-war" rhetoric are just political/religious strategies to achieve that end.

[ggggffggggg]

At scale no group is against its own personal interests. It sucks and it’s hypocritical and annoying, but that’s humans.

[ceejayoz]

> At scale no group is against its own personal interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National...

[ggggffggggg]

Don’t you think they thought this was self-interest?

[ceejayoz]

I’m sure they did!

But it clearly wasn’t.

[danans]

> At scale no group is against its own personal interests.

Of course they are. That's the whole point of scapegoating: convincing people that their problems are caused by another group while actually working against their interests.

[JuniperMesos]

Why is it inherently good for a group to be against its own personal interests? Whose interests should a group favor instead?

[dec0dedab0de]

Programmers are, because we keep encouraging AI to replace us.

[tclancy]

Yeah, I think the fact they are willing to dance to any new tune under Trump gives away the game completely. Whether it will make any difference to the audience is something I've stopped hoping about.