[gizzlon]

> "Data sovereignty" is now an important parameter when chosing supplier.

I hope you're right! I'm a backend dev and engineer, and I would love to specialize in helping companies off US cloud. Haven't found a lot of interest here in Norway so far..

[prerok]

In my experience, companies are perfectly happy with US companies, as long as the data doesn't leave Europe. This means we have to prove we only store data in European datacenters.

I guess that's fine for now, but it would be better if we could get European alternatives to AWS or GCP.

[gizzlon]

There are lots of alternatives in Europe, just a little different, and smaller than the big 3

> companies are perfectly happy with US companies, as long as the data doesn't leave Europe

I think it's pretty clear they can not guarantee that, see the CLOUD act.

Also, they could shut you out or turn your whole business off if you, or your country, offends the orange fuckhead

[JuniperMesos]

And why wouldn't this European equivalent do something that a lot of people in Europe dislike too, in the future? The entire model of large cloud companies is bad.

[taikahessu]

That's a different risk profile. Companies are governed by local laws, usually, and currently, that works here in Europe.

[aucisson_masque]

USA companies are subject to us laws, so any data will never be safe. Companies can be gagged, forced to seal their customer data and forced to lie about it, by law !

[trimethylpurine]

I'm not sure if it's accurate, but according to the summary on Wikipedia at least, the law "provides mechanisms for the companies or the courts to reject or challenge these if they believe the request violates the privacy rights of the foreign country the data is stored in."[0]

If that's accurate, your country's privacy laws would supersede US law. That said, as things are going, it's unlikely that they do.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act