[dakolli]

Yay, I love how we just keep coming up with magic tricks, like toddlers playing with velcro.. These magic tricks do nothing but convince people who don't know any better that LLMs are the real deal, when they simply aren't.

This is just free propaganda for Anthropic && OpenAI who will leverage these (useless) capabilities to convince your boss to give your salary to them, or at least a substantial portion of it.

[LatencyKills]

This technology exists. It isn’t just a toy. I think it is amazing to see people use it for interesting things even if it isn’t groundbreaking.

I’ve been an engineer for almost 40 years and love seeing what Claude Code can do.

Like it or not, young people will not know a world where this technology doesn’t exist. It is just part of their toolset now.

[paganel]

> I’ve been an engineer for almost 40 years and love seeing what Claude Code can do.

You would say that because otherwise you'd be afraid as being seen as "too old for this job", and hence risking getting kicked out of it all, meaning no future employment opportunities. I know that feeling, because I myself have been doing this programming job for 20+ years already (so not a young one by any means), but let's just cut the crap about it all and let's tell it how it is.

[hu3]

Really? That's a lot of presumption and reductionism to LLMs enthusiasts.

People of varied ages, already leverage LLMs on a daily basis. And LLMs will only get better.

Yesterday, Opus did work for me that would have taken me weeks. And the result was verified with a comprehensive suite of unit tests plus smoke tests by myself. The code looks exactly as the rest of the code in the 10y+ old, hand-written, enterprise project, no slop.

And you actually should be afraid of being left behind in dev related fields if you don't use LLMs. In most areas in fact.

Once the market corrects for LLM assisted production, the expectations will raise. So right now there is a small window to leverage LLMs as a time saving advantage before it becomes the norm and everyone is forced to use it because expecttions will reflect that.

[LatencyKills]

> You would say that because otherwise you'd be afraid as being seen as "too old for this job"

Um... I am still an active reverse engineer of both ring-0 and ring0 applications on both macOS and Windows (I worked on both the VS and Xcode teams). I'm developing a new tool for macOS that allows users to "see behind" active windows without the constant need for cmd/alt+tabbing. My age has zero bearing on my skill set or ability to understand technology. https://imgur.com/a/seymour-r9whXO5

> let's just cut the crap about it all and let's tell it how it is

The reality is, as I said, that this technology exists and it isn't going anywhere. Young people are going to use it as a tool just like we did when GUI operating systems first became prevalent.

I don't even remotely buy into the AI hype but I'm not going put the blinders on either. There is utility in this technology.

[dakolli]

I'm pretty young and hate this technology with a passion. I didn't spend 100k on education, and studying for a decade to have my job reduced to being a project manager for a bot or to play with a prompt slot machine all day. This crap is reducing the thing I genuinely love doing more than anything, writing code, into nothing.. Reviewing code that lacks any sweat, any intention. I really can't stand this garbage.

I can't stand you old heads, I'm very happy for you that you got to stash away 40 years of SWE salaries. Its just ladder kicking behavior to be honest. Typical boomer, you got your nut and don't care what happens after.

25% of new college grads in STEM are unemployed and a bunch of companies (controlled by people in your age group) have laid off 400k Americans over the last 16 months while equities and profits are at an all time highs.

The replies : ItS NoT Ai, ItS cUz FrEe MoNeY fRoM CoViD HaS DrIeD uP.

[MaybiusStrip]

Software jobs have been steadily outpacing other white collar jobs for the past year, but it's unlikely you will find one unless you work on your attitude and your ability to communicate respectfully.

[LatencyKills]

The world is changing and instead of embracing that change (ensuring that you will be the next leader) you are actively fighting against technology?

The world was once entirely analog; generations of analog engineers had to throw away their knowledge and start over during the digital transition. It wasn't always pretty but they did it.

If you can't embrace technological change you might have wasted $100k.

[stalfie]

So to summarize, your objections are almost completely unrelated to the technology, and are mostly about capitalism.

[Applejinx]

…while burning unreasonable amounts of energy for nothing.

Not a fan. Make games with in-game AIs that are interesting but are not large language models: that's wasteful and lazy. You probably had more large language models put this together for you. Lazy.

[p-e-w]

Yeah, I guess the tens of thousands of PhDs who are working on LLMs full time are just collectively wasting their lives. Everyone except you is simply too dumb to see it.

[dakolli]

10s of thousands of PhDs working on llms lol...

[hu3]

With the amount of money being thrown in R&D, I don't doubt the actual number is astounding.