[simianwords]

cost is going down 20x, 30x over the years so he's wrong about this.

[orwin]

That doesn't matter if the free models are as performant in 6 months. I will never personally pay for a model I can have for free. ChatGPT 5 used to be my preferred model as a DMing help tool, now deepseek and LeChat are the one I use, and are better at what OpenAI model use to be better at. And I think the models hit their limit for my usecase, I don't need better one. I never 'reprompt' anymore, and just roll/improvise with what I got.

[simianwords]

i find it interesting that in no case do you allow openapi to profit

- if the costs go up then they can't make profits

- if the costs go down then you won't pay for them

[orwin]

It's hard to sell something I can have for free.

The only way for openAI to get my subscription back would be my country making open-weight ai or deepseek illegal. It was worth the price tbh, but they can't compete with free.

[jbreckmckye]

Those are very large reductions - can I ask you for a source?

And why is the error bar so large?

[simianwords]

https://epoch.ai/data-insights/llm-inference-price-trends

> The rate of decline varies dramatically depending on the performance milestone, ranging from 9x to 900x per year