[anonzzzies]

Yeah, exactly. Most employed programmers I ever met in the past decades actually cannot code and really really struggled (not anymore with AI) to do anything. And yet, usually because of a degree of some crap college, they have a job as something they cannot actually do.

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Err, what do you mean they cannot do anything? Where are you meeting these programmers??

[anonzzzies]

Large (non software) enterprises. Mostly. Government departments. That type of thing. Like I said in another thread; have a wander with me over to Shell, Barclays and stuff like that; entire bags of (many outsourcing/external) 'programmers' who don't know how variables or loops work.