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by gruez 117 days ago
>Know Your Customer regulations require the company to … know the customer

Which KYC regulations exist for carriers? AFAIK you can walk into any store and get a SIM card. The most they ask for is maybe E911 which they don't check.
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psim1 117 days ago
Carriers both land/VoIP and wireless must attest to having fraud mitigation measures; this is the "Robocall Mitigation Database" and in Cape's record they exempt themselves from STIR/SHAKEN attestation but state they have measures to prevent fraudulent calling. (which is required for them to be permitted to operate)

What kind of measures are possible to prevent fraudulent calls when the caller is your anonymous customer? The answer is obviously "none," unless you respond to every complaint by terminating service of the offending customer and hoping they don't come back.

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fc417fc802 117 days ago
> What kind of measures are possible to prevent fraudulent calls when the caller is your anonymous customer?

Presumably some fairly basic heuristics would be sufficient. Robocalling isn't economically viable if you only get a few calls per subscription. You need to place (I assume) at least thousands of calls per day per subscription for it to even begin to make sense. Any account doing that is going to be blindingly obvious provided you have even 30 minutes worth of logs.

I can already walk into Walmart and purchase a cheap prepaid device with cash. That's pretty close to anonymous.

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whiterock 117 days ago
not in Europe no more for a few years now.
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gruez 117 days ago
"Europe" isn't a monolith, and there are quite a few countries that don't require any KYC, UK and NL to name two.
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jrexilius 117 days ago
You don't need an ID to buy a SIM in UK? I remember not needing one a long time ago but in recent years was asked for one.. maybe not a law? irregularly applied?
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