[anizan]

OpenAI doesnt have a single model in top 10 models being used on openrouter.ai

Thats a weekly metric on https://openrouter.ai/rankings flagship chatgpt 5.2 model is at #16

PMF is now evolving when competitor models are either smarter or cheaper.

[mrkeen]

I hadn't heard of openrouter.ai. I have heard of OpenAI.

Is this like Windows and MacOS not being in the top 10 of distrowatch.com?

[sadeshmukh]

OpenRouter is the leading place to go to to get general purpose models of all sorts. It's fairly popular, and processes tens of trillions of tokens a year.

[oezi]

I think the primary issue is that the metric is tokens and not dollars spent.

[sadeshmukh]

OpenRouter is valued at >$500m and processes >$100m/year, 5% of which goes to them. Not that large compared to e.g. OpenAI, but it's the largest that doesn't produce its own models & with the largest selection I'm aware of.

[MeetingsBrowser]

The number of tokens seen per model on OpenRouter is not a good measure of quality.

There are so many plausible explanations for why a particular model is or is not ranked in the top 10 by this metric.

Maybe people using OpenAI models are so happy that they don't care about other models and have no need for OpenRouter. Maybe OpenAI models produce fewer tokens, or are more expensive per token.

Your conclusion might be correct, but citing the number of tokens seen by OpenRouter is not very strong evidence.

[anizan]

If ChatGPT 5.2 were actually superior, developers wouldn't be overwhelmingly routing traffic to Gemini 3.1 Pro just 6 days after release.

I use openrouter.ai as the benchmark because it's the foundational API layer for innovator apps that are always the quickest to adopt new tech.

[MeetingsBrowser]

ChatGPT has 100x more interest on google trends than Gemini and OpenRouter combined, which in the context of this article is a much more relevant "popularity score".

But I don't think either are very meaningful when there are actual benchmarks to measure the quality of models on specific tasks.

[btown]

OpenAI, frankly, benefits from the "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" phenomenon.

And there's a reason that OpenRouter has an OpenAI compatible layer highlighted not deep in docs, but on their Quickstart page: https://openrouter.ai/docs/quickstart#using-the-openai-sdk

The number of projects accessing OpenAI directly, who might only reach for OpenRouter once an alternative is desired, is unknowable (since OpenAI doesn't share usage statistics), but likely meaningful.

[conception]

Well also because OpenRouter launched when OpenAI’s api was the only real game in town.

[Garlef]

Could also just be a bias in the audience