[rockostrich]

In the entire span of human history, the concept of suffering required sentience and the only things with sentience eat and drink.

[bondarchuk]

Do you really think that proves anything? It strikes me as a disingenuous argument.

[rockostrich]

It doesn't prove anything. It provides context for why someone would make that statement. Can you prove that things that do not need to eat and drink to survive can suffer?