[wongarsu]

The word artificial intelligence was coined in a 1955 research proposal [1] which listed seven aspects of the "artificial intelligence problem". Computers using languages was one of them. Another is "neuron nets", which would indeed encompass a large part of ML and at least Google Translate since circa 2016 [2].

This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022. The weird thing is this narrowing of AI to only mean transformer or diffusion based neural network approaches.

And many translation approaches would even fall under that, so not sure how narrow you perceive the term to be now. How do you even define AI to include everything OpenAI calls AI but not include modern translation approaches

1: https://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/history/dartmouth/dartmo...

2: https://web.archive.org/web/20180507195240/https://ai.google...

[squeefers]

> This is also perfectly in line with how the word AI was used until circa 2022.

show me a screenshot or link of one website or app using AI to mean machine translation from prior to 2022, AI has re-entered the lexicon covering anything from an algorithm to Sora. if anything its broadened, not narrowed in scope. me and you might mean transformer when we say AI, but the average speaker doesnt make that distinction. they call video sites "social media", so can you really be surprised they dont quite use AI correctly either?

[wongarsu]

2018: "DeepL - AI Assistance for Language" https://web.archive.org/web/20180906040822/https://www.deepl...

2020: "DeepL Pro, released in March of 2018, is our latest product, now allowing subscribers to unlock the full capacity of DeepL’s AI translation technology" https://web.archive.org/web/20200429002724/https://www.deepl...

[squeefers]

are these examples of AI meaning machine translation? because they all have the word translation next to them. not the same thing

[wongarsu]

They are examples of AI being a category that contains (a subset of) translation technology. Which is consistent with Mozilla's use of "you can disable AI, which will also disable translation"

If you are asking about examples of AI being synonymous with machine translation: no, I don't think that was ever a thing. But I also don't think that was claimed

[Volundr]

Here you go: https://web.archive.org/web/20200929085743/https://en.wikipe...

Admittedly I don't think this uses the term AI, but "deep learning" and "artificial neural network" are indeed AI, and if you follow those links in the Wikipedia article you will indeed find them described as such.

[squeefers]

i agree, but the guy said AI was a synonym for machine translation long before the currently confused meaning appeared

[Volundr]

I don't think they did, they said machine translation is considered AI, that is, it's the subset of things that are AI. Not that they are one and the same.

[Rexxar]

Here is the "artificial intelligence" part of a French engineering diploma in 2001:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030526120130/http://www.ensta....

There are four courses:

  - Expert Systems
  - Machine Learning
  - Artificial Evolution
  - Cognition and Reasoning

[squeefers]

does that show us that AI meant Machine Learning in 2001?