[vient]

Approximately all people update Firefox so you don't need telemetry to count "AI disabled" installations, instead you can derive it as "updates requested" minus "AI enabled".

[fenykep]

But the AI and telemetry toggles aren't coupled. While we can assume that users who disable telemetry are more likely to have AI disabled as well this still isn't translating to user numbers.

[duttish]

Hm. I don't think I follow "isn't translating to user numbers", could you elaborate?

Here's my thinking: There's 100 users getting updates. There's 40 users sending telemetry with AI enabled There's 10 users sending telemetry with AI disabled

So we have 50 people not sending telemetry and using or not using AI. If we assume more likely but not overwhelmingly more it's 30 people.

So we end up with 40+20 with AI, and 10+30 without?

[zorked]

This correlation may be ilegal to do in large parts of the world.

When you disable telemetry you are declaring you don't want to be tracked.

[whizzter]

If you attach tracking to get exact set numbers it'd be illegal, but taking an aggregate and doing statistics shouldn't be since it can't be traced to individuals.

[vient]

I assumed that AI features require server, so the server knows how many users it has. If some features are local then it's not so straightforward.

[sellmesoap]

I can think if some mac users I know who deny all updates from being burned by feature creep and breakages in the past.

[sysguest]

that's.... really clever