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by margalabargala 112 days ago
Your comment is a bit of a non sequiter.

The parent comment is complaining about capitalism draining savings such that retirement becomes impossible.

Other systems have robust retirement available for the elderly.

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> Other systems

Such as?

The conditions for retirees relative to those still working in the USSR were fairly decent (by the end). But its not exactly fair since the demographic situation there was much better than it is now in most developed countries.

And then all capitalist countries in Europe these days (which coincidentally are all capitalist) generally have similar retirement systems to the US.

Really?

Where will these resources will came from if the capitalist system is the most productive of them all? You can't redistribute something out of nothing. You need a healthy tax base to redistribute.

Childcare is just too regulated and people don't want to do it and ask for a premium on childcare.

Retirement in socialist country? Or in China before the capitalism came there? Or in a feudal society where your children where your insurance in the old age?

Why don't you ask them "where will these resources will came from"? This isn't a hypothetical we're discussing, most of Europe has protected retirement.
All countries in Europe are certainly capitalist, though (by any definition that define US as capitalist).

And situation in countries in France where the average retiree now somehow has higher disposable income than those still working is far from ideal.

Okay, sure, whatever.

The original commenter was saying something more like "we will work until we die, but that's okay, because capitalism is great! And it's not like you would get to retire under any other system anyway"