[hippo22]

I disagree. The purpose of writing is to convey ideas. If written language had just been invented, I’m sure you’d be saying “IMO any important stories you expect others to know should be communicated orally. It’s kind of disrespectful to convey stories as if they were hearing you speak.”

[crystal_revenge]

Your conflating the medium with the source of the message in this analogy.

Writing and oration are two different media, the question of which is preferable in which context is completely unrelated to LLM authorship.

If "the purpose of writing is to convey ideas" (which I largely agree with), which ideas are being added between whatever you prompt the model to convey and what the model conveys? Are you proposing that an LLM can extract some meaning from your initial prompt that a human being couldn't?

[hippo22]

> Are you proposing that an LLM can extract some meaning from your initial prompt that a human being couldn't?

No, I’m asserting that an LLM can help formulate ideas in a coherent, understandable way. You can give it a brain dump with a rough outline for an argument and it fill in the details. If the argument isn’t to your liking, you can try again. But the end result is basically equivalent to the human-written equivalent.

[crystal_revenge]

The point is if you can't correctly craft an analogy, I'm not particularly concerned about your opinions on writing in general.

[hippo22]

It’s fine to disagree with my analogy. But I find it a little ironic your dismissal of the analogy is a non sequitur. The invalidness of the analogy doesn’t directly follow, logically, from the fact that the written word and the spoken word are both mediums.

[gedy]

If you can't articulate an idea yourself, it's not worth conveying imho

[hippo22]

I guess you’re not a big fan of Plato then?

[gedy]

Plato's one thing, but SV "idea men" who have a hard time explaining themselves is another, ha