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> It's not talent though, why are we acting like it takes critical knowledge to write java spring endpoints or react components?

Because typically that's not what you are hiring, even if effectively that's what you will have the engineer doing often.

I was hired for my problem solving skills. For being able to design an application end-to-end. For being able to extend a messy existing system in ways that are sensible. For being able to analyze issues and come up with ways to address them. For coming up with answers for legacy issues. Those among many other things.

Anyone out of a boot camp can write a Java endpoint using Spring. If you think that's what the company is hiring, you are sorely mistaken.

I say this as someone that was an interviewer in past jobs, including FAANG.