[jacquesm]

It's a viewpoint issue: how you define success is what makes the difference here.

To someone that just made a few billion and who externalized the cost of that billion, say 100 billion onto society they are successful. From the point of view of society they just cost us all a fortune. But we don't judge the winners by social impact but by the size of their bankroll.

[panta]

Not everyone shares this view. Some have a different definition of winners and losers.

[jacquesm]

Yes, that's what I said.