[bandrami]

> I think you're actually just complaining about democracy

Local participatory democracy is in fact pretty terrible: HOAs, school boards, neighborhood impact hearings where people complain that building apartments would let the poors move in and we can't have that.

[mlrtime]

I see this troll response all the time stating families don't want "poors" as some kind of attempt at manipulation to feel I am a bad person.

I [given the chance] would also vote against apartments in my particular neighborhood, and it has nothing to do with being poor at all.

[bandrami]

Saying it's about poor people is the polite version, unfortunately

[mlrtime]

Nope, you are wrong. But I'm sure you feel confident that you're right. Hope that works out for you.

[array_key_first]

It's about it lowering the value of surrounding property, which is just "oh no poors" but roundabout.

But it's not your fault, it's a systemic issue. The fact you even care about your property value is the problem, not the fact you have to care about it. That's not your fault, you're just playing the game you have to play like everyone else.

[mlrtime]

Not directly, no it's not about lowering of property value. It's also not your fault that you make assumptions about how other people make decisions without critical thinking.

[array_key_first]

Unfortunately I am forced to make assumptions when people choose not to tell me their intentions. I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt - I couldve assumed the reason was much worse, which is frankly probably the case since you refuse to say it.

If you don't want to be on the defensive, try to make your position comprehensible.