[foota]

> This makes it a little more expensive than diesel, considerably more expensive than petrol, and roughly the same price as electric

Is electric charging more expensive in the UK than petrol? That's nuts.

[michaelt]

According to [1] it breaks down like this:

EV at rapid/ultra-rapid chargers: 25p/mile

Petrol, diesel: 15p/mile

EV charging at home: 8p/mile

This is because there's a government price cap on home electricity, but not on commercial electricity - and rapid chargers are all commercial (and of course for-profit).

[1] https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/charging/electric-...

[ErroneousBosh]

It is if you use a rapid charger. If you're fortunate enough to be able to do what you need with a car within 50 miles or so of your house and leave it overnight to charge, it's cheaper.

At present, EVs do not solve any problem I have.

[Symbiote]

Very few people would use 100% rapid charging. Even on a long journey, they can arrive home with, say, 5-10% remaining, and recharge at home. (The car calculates this automatically.)

[ErroneousBosh]

The range of most EVs is only about 120 miles, which isn't especially useful when they take around six hours to charge.

[foota]

Maybe most EVs in the wild, but no way for EVs being sold today. There are only 5 cars on this list below 200: https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-cons..., and more than half above 300.

[ErroneousBosh]

"Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consu..." on this server."

But I mean, you say that but if you test a car advertised as having 200 miles real-world performance then in practical terms that's about 120 miles.

You might get 200 miles if you're driving in a perfectly straight line on a perfectly flat motorway at a steady speed.

[foota]

That's... weird? Maybe it's blocked in your country? The link opens just fine for me.

Those were tested numbers, not advertised though. I don't see how you'd get a drop from 200 to 120 miles, that's a 40% drop. Maybe in a gasoline powered car, but EVs can regeneratively break, so I don't think it'd make that much of a difference.

Reading some more, there are a handful of different ratings. the old European one: NEDC, the new European one: WLTP, the US EPA, and China's CLTC.

Generally the ratings from lowest to highest go EPA, WLTP, NEDC, then CLTC. The EPA rating is just a tad high I've read when you look at fast highway driving (e.g., 75 MPH), but should be within ballpark range.

I think you're under estimating the range of modern EVs.