[argestes]

I have many things dependent on Cloudflare. That makes me root for Cloudflare and I think I'm not the only one. Instead of finding better options we're getting stuck on an already failing HA solution. I wonder what caused this.

[slothsarecool]

There are no alternatives, and those alternatives that did exist back in the day, had to shut down due to either going out of business or not being able to keep a paygo model.

Not everybody needs cloudflare, but those that need it and aren't major enterprises, have no other option.

[Sanzig]

Bunny.net? Doesn't have near the same feature set as Cloudflare, but the essentials are there and you can easily pay as you go with a credit card.

[slothsarecool]

Their WAF isn't there yet, the moment it can build the expressions you can build with CF (and allows you to have as much visibility into the traffic as CF does), then it might be a solid option, assuming they have the compute/network capacity.

[pocksuppet]

Lots of people who think they need Cloudflare don't. What are you using it for?

[slothsarecool]

L7 DDoS protection and global routing + CDN, there is not a single paygo provider that can handle the capacity CF can, especially not at this price range (mitigated attacks distributed from approximately 50-90k ips, adding up to about 300-700k rps).

We tried Stackpath, Imperva (Incapsula back in the day), etc but they were either too expensive or went out of business.

[blibble]

> especially not at this price range

pay peanuts, get monkeys

[arcatech]

Do you not feel concern about you and everybody else deciding to put ALL of their eggs into one basket like this?

[ranger_danger]

I would bet money that most people who use CF now are already hosting their endpoints at a single provider. I don't think most people care until it actually becomes enough of a problem.

[esseph]

Like AWS/GCP/Azure?