[tonyedgecombe]

No surprise, you had to be over the age of 39 before you were more likely to vote for Brexit.

By the time we got around to implementing it enough old people had died off that the vote would have gone the other way already.

[jjgreen]

The Brexit-induced impoverishment of UK will inevitably lead to a reduction in the scope of the NHS and so kill off its supporters. So Brexit is kind-of self healing.

[tetris11]

I went to George's hospital the other day and saw a punchy flyer talking about the lack of NHS services, with the kicker "Privatise now!"

That's what we're dealing with. Underinvestment only enriches their camp.

[illiac786]

Thank you for this. The poor always vote against themselves I have the impression. Far right plan to hand over the country to megacorps et remove all social nets in Germany. Guess who votes for them more than other social categories? The one that would be most impacted by this. It’s insane.

At the same time, it’s a testament to the weakness of other parties that they can’t even articulate that sufficiently well.

[citrin_ru]

Generation of boomers accumulated lots of wealth, mostly thanks to house prices skyrocketing during their lifetime. Not all but many old people can afford private healthcare. Younger people need NHS more.

[GuestFAUniverse]

Or they let the houses rot, without reinvestment and now are commanding insane prices -- and what are the alternatives the next gen has?

[munksbeer]

The irony is that in our experience, if you're old or a child, you're far more likely to be treated quickly on the NHS.

Perhaps that isn't the whole story, maybe old people tend to have more life threatening conditions, so triage puts them first. But from my perspective, private health insurance is now mandatory in the UK if you're not old or a child, and I am even going to put my children on private health insurance. So now I'm paying a fortune in taxes for a health system I can no rely on, so must pay for private too.

[mmarq]

The problem with this is that private health insurance is very cheap because there is an NHS that takes care of emergencies and does more than 50% of the rest. So your taxes keep your health insurance premia low.

Otherwise a comprehensive health insurance wouldn’t cost 200£ a month per person (I just requested a quote from AXA, as a 45 year old with no health problems, adding all packages, unlimited specialist visits and no excess)

[roryirvine]

Yeah, there's a reason why it's a standard perk for tech employees - they're dirt cheap to insure.

I'm a bit older than you, and the taxable value of my PHI is £140/month. I've not looked into what that covers, or what the excess etc is, and have never even considered making use of it.

And why would I? When I needed treatment in a hurry, I was blue lighted to Barts and spent two weeks in their ITU getting world-class care free of charge, with not a single thought given to cost or having to call my insurer to ask permission for particular treatments or whatever. Thank fuck for the NHS!

[munksbeer]

By the way, for the down voters, I hope you never have a severe health issue and spend a year waiting for treatment.

[irl_zebra]

Covid in the USA was a bit like this.

[jfaat]

With what's happening in the US post covid, I'm gonna have to disagree

[illiac786]

Honest question: are there serious studies about the link of Covid with the current dying (for lack of a better word) of democracy in the US? I would be very interested. I suspect there is a link – but I’m really not an expert on the subject matter.

[saubeidl]

It's only self-healing if they actually manage to rejoin...