[aucisson_masque]

at the end of the day, it's average joe who bought his things more expensive, and he won't get back his money.

That's what matters, don't care if it's the seller or a middleman that gets this money.

That's really a shame for american citizens, i'd be furious if i was american.

[blurbleblurble]

Many are beyond furious

[ikiris]

Many voted for this

[cptroot]

Very few people voted for tariffs, specifically. They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.

[acuozzo]

> They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.

Very few were on top during The Gilded Age and it has been EXTREMELY clear for quite a long time now that the "Great" in M.A.G.A. is a reference to the 1880s, not the 1950s.

[watwut]

Where THEY were on top. Trump voting men wanted the world where they can rule over women. Trump voting whites voted to be over minorities. Trump voting christians want their religious state.

And so on and so forth. In each case, vote for Trump was to harm someone you look down at and to dominate over another group.

[acuozzo]

Begging for a 12h day of work every morning on the docks as a stevedore in crowds among hundreds of other men begging for the same job does not give one power to "rule over women".

They'd be too underpaid and exhausted to rule over their own dinner before falling asleep for the night.

[scott_w]

No they absolutely did. Trump promised tariffs on multiple occasions: https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/us-presidentia...

When you vote, you vote for an entire platform and you especially vote for central campaign promises. You don’t get to say “I voted for a world where I’m on top” and then say “but not for the primary method the candidate promised to use!”

[riffraff]

tariff were promised and implemented by Trump in his first mandate too, if you voted for him, you mostly voted for America Great Again Through Tariffs.

After the liberation day tariffs were announced, 34% of the people thought they were good.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...

[__turbobrew__]

Project 2025 was publicly available prior to the election. Tariffs were one of the many policies within the larger plan. If you voted for Trump you are responsible for the Tariffs, this is not a hoodwink where Trump rug pulled everyone after getting elected — it was literally there in the open.

[deathanatos]

Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024; it was even included and discussed at the Presidential Debate. The Harris platform even called it a tax at that time, to attempt to make it quite clear to the voter who, in the end, would bear the cost, and the Trump platform equivocated on who would pay the tax to distract from that Harris was right.

Even if you knew nothing of Project 2025 (somehow), you were warned.

[larusso]

On top you have news outlets and educated people not being clear what they are. See from the article:

He has long argued tariffs boost American manufacturing - but many in the business community, as well as Trump's political adversaries, say the costs are passed on to consumers

It’s reported as if someone still needs to figure out who pays the tariffs in the end. I’m aware that tariffs are a lever to potential move buying behavior and give incentives to move production locally. But in this instance and how it’s/ was implemented it’s clear who is the paying for it.

[vjvjvjvjghv]

“ Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024;”

The tariff stuff is just a variation of the republican dream to replace income tax with a sales tax. Big tax cut for higher incomes while raising taxes for lower incomes.

[mapontosevenths]

Trump believed that Obama was a secret Muslim infiltrate sent to destroy America because he's black, that's what they voted for. Racism.

The rest of it was just gravy.

[nurettin]

The problem is USA doesn't get good choices. Given the choice between a walking corpse and trump, they choose the corpse. Given the choice between a woman and trump, they choose trump.

[hermanzegerman]

Care to elaborate why a person is a bad choice because she is a women? Especially compared to someone who shits his own pants in the public?

[nurettin]

I think there is a language barrier issue here.

[JKCalhoun]

I assume they were suggesting that to those that voted for Trump they saw a woman as the worse choice. Perhaps as well when Hillary Clinton ran against him.

[poisonarena]

This is loony, all these guys knew eachother for years before and have cordial if nor friendly relationships. The Clintons, Trump, Bushes, Obamas, etc.

[mapontosevenths]

In 2016 65% of Trump supporters believed Obama was secretly Muslim. [0]

Trump claimed that Obama was "the founder of Isis" and claimed MANY times that he was not born in the United States. [1]

So yes, he is completely loony... and very blatantly a racist who sends dogwhistles to other racists regularly.

No, he is not friends with Obama or Biden. In fact, Trump is the first president in 150 years to refuse to attend the inauguration of his competitor after losing. [2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspira...

[1] https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080

[2] https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-pres...

[aucisson_masque]

These people are not necessary against tariff, they are against paying more for their stuff and having it benefit some middleman because the current government messed up badly.

I can otherwise understand how people would agree on paying more for their stuff if it allows their fellow citizens to have a job.

[qingcharles]

Check Truth Social, many are livid that the tariffs were found illegal. A lot of supporters of the current government prefer to pay higher prices for goods.

[JKCalhoun]

(I'll just take your word for it.)

[qingcharles]

It's like a car crash, I have to rubberneck it sometimes for my own morbid curiosity.

[cyanydeez]

So they basically figured out how to bribe all these companies?

Such a kleptocracy.

[PowerElectronix]

i read that Costco could actually refund everyone, as they can know exactly who bought what.

If they do, that's another matter, but they definitely can.