[ghthor]

We’ve had issues with the centralized DERPs just blackholing traffic when we startup ephemeral nodes in CI. This is despite us ensuring that all important peers can establish direct connections to each other. But there is some bootstrapping that is happening before both peers negotiate.

Having said this, it’s been almost a year since the last incident of this. It’s been rock solid the last months. Ok sure using these new peer nodes will greatly reduce this from even a chance of happening anymore. :hacks away:

[solarisos]

That ephemeral node bootstrap issue is a classic 'edge case' that becomes a nightmare in CI. It makes sense that centralized DERP might struggle with the sheer churn of nodes popping in and out of existence. Using a Peer Relay that lives permanently on your internal net as the 'anchor' for those CI nodes seems like it would solve that race condition entirely.