[testing22321]

> not a single one of those humans would be considered a good (or even decent) driver.

So is the bar here being a good or decent driver, or being x times worse than the average human?

I see a lot of bar moving.

[youarentrightjr]

> So is the bar here being a good or decent driver, or being x times worse than the average human?

> I see a lot of bar moving.

"Less than decent" means "worse than the average human driver".

I've never hit a stationary object, or any object for that matter, in 20 years of driving.

I understand that might not be the same for you. My bar is that it must be better than my own good driving.

[testing22321]

That is a completely made up bar that is impossible to test for, and can never be met.

Even Waymo have tons of reported crashes in the same document.

Self driving cars need to be better than the average human - which means less injuries and deaths. Given 100 people will be killed on the road in the US today, it’s actually not a crazy high bar to clear.

[youarentrightjr]

> That is a completely made up bar that is impossible to test for, and can never be met.

My own bar being a self driving car better than me is made up and impossible to test for?

Stop trying to force shitty self driving implementations down other's throats. If they were good and useful, people would voluntarily use them.

> Self driving cars need to be better than the average human

And Teslas are obviously not, to everyone except the terminally brainwashed. Two more weeks until it works though, right?

[testing22321]

I’m not shoving anything. I don’t make the laws. If you don’t like them, elect different representatives.

Your bar is irrelevant, this isn’t about you, personally. This is about everyone.