[happymellon]

Except records are immutable and have getters and setters as builtins to replicate what we've been doing with Lombok.

So enforces what I was saying.

[brunoborges]

To be clear, Records don't have setters. They are immutable.

[happymellon]

Yeah, sorry, typo.

Still they institutionalise getters, which is the opposite of what their argument was.

[tadfisher]

Well, they don't have "getters" either, they have accessors; x() instead of getX(). It's still bad, but at least it doesn't enforce JavaBeans conventions, which is where getters and setters actually originate [0].

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaBeans

[throwA29B]

>immutable

>setters

sigh