[croes]

> If you give in and comply without a fight, are you actually a victim or are you actually a collaborator?

That is victim blaming. Heard the same from judges about rape victims.

> CBS is controlled by Ellison, which makes this look a lot like collaboration.

That changes this completely. That isn’t being a coward, that’s just good old quid pro quo from billionaire buddies.

[mikkupikku]

We're not talking about rape, and you're begging the question.

[croes]

Your statement just reminded me of a judge who said something similiar to a rape victim.

[QuercusMax]

First off, corporations are not people, so your argument is insane from the beginning.

Were the leaders of Vichy France victims? No, they were collaborators.

[croes]

Corporations are plenty of people with jobs and families that depend on that jobs.

Where all the people of France that didn't choose to fight to their death collaborators?

Where all the people in the concentartion camps collaborators. Do you blame them or the real perpetrator?

I find it strange to put the blame on the middleman instead on the source of all that.

[QuercusMax]

Corporations are made of people in the same way that Soylent Green is made of people. Your argument is incoherent.

There's a difference between not fighting and obeying in advance.

[croes]

So if a corporation makes bad decisions and goes bankrupt the people in the corporation aren’t affected?

Without people there is no corporation.

And I‘m pretty sure the people in corporations are still alive so your Soylent Green example is nonsense.

> There's a difference between not fighting and obeying in advance.

Sometimes not. If you know in advance what will happen, not fighting can be the better option. At least for the moment.