[6jQhWNYh]

It's a shame only Pixel phones are supported. I have PWM sensitivity and Pixel phones are notoriously bad for this, my eyes hurt when I look at one for more than 30mn. Due to the lack of good, secure alternative, I have had to give up on privacy in exchange for manufacturer updates.

[sudonem]

The Pixel limitations has been my main concern as well.

The good news is that they are actively working on developing their own hardware. The bad news is that it’s been delayed. But I’m watching closely.

https://www.galaxus.at/en/page/grapheneos-postpones-pixel-al...

[wolvoleo]

That article speculates the OEM is Samsung but I find that very hard to believe. Samsung is totally beholden to Google. The discontinued their own DeX and Tizen smartwatch OS for Google alternatives and as for their "AI" features most of them actually come from Google.

Google would not allow this and they're way too entangled with Samsung.

[6jQhWNYh]

Interesting article. Let's now hope for a reasonable price, even though it will be challenging for their team. It would be a shame if the target audience is limited to overpaid nerds like most of HN.

[lejalv]

> when I look at one for more than 30mn

That limitation might be doing you a favor, as these things go...

Even if Pixels hadn't PWM a larger screen (or, dare I say, a book) will be an improvement for longer reading sessions.

[wishfish]

I'm in the same boat. Bought a 9 Pro XL and had to return it. Hope their OEM will use DC dimming for the screens or have an IPS option.

In the meantime, I use a Motorola G Power 2024 which has IPS. I'm very much a non-expert but made a minor hobby out of trying to de-google it as much as possible.

Never signed into Google with it. Using NetGuard with a whitelist to prevent most of the phoning home. Uninstalled or disabled most built-in apps. The apps I use are installed via either Obtanium or Fdroid. Have Dropbox from Aurora. Use Motorola's private space for keeping some data and apps in a separate, supposedly secure locker.

I'm sure this doesn't come close to GrapheneOS's security level but it's the best I can do within the limitations of this device. It was a fun mini-project. NetGuard is invaluable for this purpose. Almost feels like the phone is truly mine.

[ktm5j]

Seriously. Especially if you're someone who wants to cut ties with Google.

[microtonal]

So, buy it refurbished? Google doesn't directly profit from it, you create less pollution, and once you have GrapheneOS on it you can leave Google out the door.

The problem with nearly every other phone, except maybe Samsung flagships, is that they don't fulfill the security requirements. And Samsung is hostile against unlocking (even when it was still possible, it would burn a Knox eFuse).

[ktm5j]

Not a bad idea.

[backscratches]

Seconded. Really hope the new Graphene device does not have terrible PWM. Battery benefit to OLED is great but not if I can't look at my phone.