[halflife]

So Jews should just accept the ruler de jour! If he likes Jews everything’s honky dory, if he doesn’t, better luck with the next ruler! Just like the last 2000 years of exile, sometime it was nice for Jews, sometime it was pogroms. Such is life you say.

So easy for you when you’re not the one that billions of people around the world are taught to hate.

[lkey]

""" So [Black people in America] should just accept the [president] de jour! If he likes [Black people] everything’s honky dory, if he doesn’t, better luck with the next [president]! Just like the last 400 years of [chattel slavery, convict leasing, apartheid, and child incarceration], sometime it was nice for [Black people], sometime it was [lynchings].

Such is life you say. So easy for you when you’re not the one that billions of people around the world are taught to hate [Black people, sexual minorities, brown immigrants, Muslims, Jews, etc...]. """

I'm saying that apartheid is always wrong and I will always stand against it. It is not 'such is life' except in the particular sense that it is the obligation of all free peoples to stand against these moral atrocities where ever they appear, and they appear in every age.

It does not matter to me one whit the particulars of the race or caste of the people enacting apartheid and genocide and no amount of special pleading will change my mind.

[halflife]

what you think matters not in the real world. Jews are hated, and persecuted. In the past and present. The only place where Jews feel safe to be Jewish is Israel.

[direwolf20]

Jews who live in Germany don't have rockets fired at them every day. Isn't that safer?

[halflife]

Jews in Israel had rockets fired on them mainly from border town. And now the Israeli government finally put a stop to it, and no rockets are being fired on them.

https://amp.dw.com/en/berlins-young-jews-reveal-complex-expe...

> In December, for example, major security measures were implemented at the public candle-lighting ceremony for the Hanukkah holiday, held at Berlin's landmark Brandenburg Gate, while just a few years ago, passersby could watch the celebration up close.

> "In the past, I sometimes wore a Star of David necklace. At the moment, I don't," Sofer says. "Right now, anywhere in Berlin, you'd have to be crazy to wear one," in her view.

Yeah, sounds safe. Love the jewsplaining of telling me where I should feel safer.

[direwolf20]

Where in Berlin are the antisemitism police not patrolling? Brandenburg Gate? Get real, you'd be arrested in five seconds if you did an antisemitic attack there.

[lkey]

Factually untrue in two regards.

The USA is the safest place on Earth for Jewish people, both by the numbers and in measured attitudes.

Israel is by far more dangerous. If you can only feel safe there, this is your feelings lying to you about the real state of the world. Perhaps this fear is what allows you to avoid looking inward at your personal acceptance of apartheid as a necessary evil?

Feeling safe is nice, but it's not a human right to feel unsafe and then insist that it is [the whole 'real' word]'s problem. You can not create real safety at the expense of your neighbor's safety.

'safety' is an argument that justifies every act. It's identical a white lady in the park calling the cops because she saw [minority] and 'felt unsafe'. It's firing a tall stocky cis women because seeing her enter the stall made 'real women' feel unsafe about the tr*nny 'invading their spaces'.

It's being anti-integration [not because you are racist!!!, but] because schools would be made 'unsafe'. etc etc etc...

[halflife]

The USA is safest by attitude? I have Jewish friends there. Kids are harassed at schools because they are Jewish. Jews at universities hide their religion because they are being excluded from everywhere by the student body, professors are discriminating Jews. Synagogues are being fire bombed. Jewish places of business are being marked.

That does not happen in Israel.

[lkey]

You've implied you are neither Jewish, nor American and you are lecturing me with random anecdotes about what is 'really going on' in the USA???

I attended school in one of the most staunchly zionist synagogues in America for years. I was the designate שבת גוי for years during high school. I lived in a quiet, peaceful predominately orthodox neighborhood during those years. Those Jewish kids I grew up arguing with about politics helped me deconstruct the subtle bigotries [about black, brown, and arab people] I was raised in! My education on the Holocaust and then genocide generally is why I am writing what I am right now.

Only one of those kids grew up and remained a Zionist to this day, he moved to Israel; It had always been his dream... Then he moved to NJ to start a family, last I checked he's still a Rabbi and lecturer. Can you imagine the reasons why he didn't choose to start his family in the 'safest place' on Earth?

You are woefully misinformed about daily life here and you need to consume less news designed to terrify you.

[Pay08]

As per the FBI[0], antisemitic hate crimes are the second largest category of hate crimes and have consistently stayed there since they started recording data. In New York, the majority of hate crimes are against Jews and it's not even close[1].

[0] https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/

[1] https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/crimnet/ojsa/FINAL%202023...

[mupuff1234]

Just look at hate crime stats.

[Pay08]

You almost got the irony...