[wredcoll]

> The Western Roman Empire has nothing to do with "the West". I think it's fascinating that that's even suggested.

I got that bit from wikipedia, it amused me.

As for germans, if they do not share such a viewpoint (and now I want evidence either way), the claim about the west is merely wrong, not "cultural erasure".

[watwut]

French have fairly serious differences against USA too.

[wredcoll]

I mean, at some level, every single human is different, at another level we're all the same. I'm not sure what we're proving here.

The original claim was something about liberty and security and no one in this chain seems interested in bringing in any actual specifics about who thinks what where.