[lysace]

That "simple orchestration layer" (paraphrased) is what I consider the AGI.

But yeah, I suspect LLM:s may actually get close enough. "Just" add more reasoning loops and corresponding compute.

It is objectively grotesquely wasteful (a human brain operates on 12 to 25 watts and would vastly outperform something like that), but it would still be cataclysmic.

/layperson, in case that wasn't obvious

[pixl97]

If we can get AI down to this power requirement then it's over for humans. Just think of how many copies of itself thinking at the levels of the smartest humans it could run at once. Also where all the hardware could hide itself and keep itself powered around the world.

[jonas21]

> a human brain operates on 12 to 25 watts

Yeah, but a human brain without the human attached to it is pretty useless. In the US, it averages out to around 2 kW per person for residential energy usage, or 9 kW if you include transportation and other primary energy usage too.

[lysace]

Fair.

Maybe the Matrix (1999) with the human battery farms were on to something. :)

[mjevans]

I suspected it wasn't just battery farms, but more like what you see in less mass market scifi where the humans are used for more than just batteries... they'd also be some storage and processing for the system (and no longer humans).

However at that point I don't see the value of retaining the human form. It's for a story obviously, but a not-human computational device can still be made out of carbon processing units rather than silicon or semiconductors generally.

[ryanSrich]

I think "tested" is the hard part. The simple part seems to be there already, loops, crons, and computer use is getting pretty close.