[neya]

100% accurate. The architect matters so much more than people think. The most common counter argument to this I've seen on reddit are the vibe coders (particularly inside v0 and lovable subreddits) claiming they built an app that makes $x0,000 over a weekend, so who needs (senior) software engineers and the like? A few weeks later, there's almost always a listing for a technical co-founder or a CTO with experience on their careers page or LinkedIn :)))

[kenforthewin]

If that's true, it sounds like the vibe coders are winning - they're creating products people want, and pull in technical folks as needed to scale.

[neya]

But the argument is not about market validation, the argument is about software quality. Vibe coders love shitting on experienced software folks until their code starts falling apart the moment there is any real world usage.

And about the pulling in devs - you can actually go to indeed.com and filter out listings for co-founders and CTOs. Usually equity only, or barely any pay. Since they're used to getting code for free. No real CTO/Senior dev will touch anything like that.

For every vibe coded product, there's a 100 clones more. It's just a red ocean.