[theYipster]

Just because you’re a good programmer / software engineer doesn’t mean you’re a good architect, or a good UI designer, or a good product manager. Yet in my experience, using LLMs to successfully produce software really works those architect, designer, and manager muscles, and thus requires them to be strong.

[LPisGood]

I really disagree with this. I don’t think you can be a good software engineer without being a good product manager and a good architect.

[AnimalMuppet]

You can - but you have to work with a good product manager and a good architect. You have to actually listen to them and trust them.

[bitwize]

You're doing architect/designer/manager work while being treated, and paid, like a code monkey. This is by design.

[ozozozd]

It’s also much faster that way. We cut so many corners and make wise bets in what to test a lot and what not to bother with compared to spec-driven development with an LLM.

[asdff]

The irony considering "good" ui to a ui designer is completely at odds with users. We got better ui when it was people who had no clue what they were doing just trying to make some sense out of it, vs the cult of dogmatic ui design we see today where everything follows the same crappy patterns and everyone is afraid to step out of line.

[bitwize]

Actually the opposite is the case. UI design was best when designers were systematic in their approach, employing concepts from human psychology and rigorously testing and timing how long it took to perform actions on the computer, optimizing for efficiency, discoverability, and ease of use. Today's UI designers copy from designs they've seen before, often poorly, and when they do apply data and metrics it's to bullshit KPIs like "engagement".

[asdff]

I'm talking the sort of tools you open where its like a giant anime cat lady on a background and a couple buttons to just run some functions or other scripts behind the scenes. Where the venn diagram of the person writing the software, understanding the problem, and understanding how people expected it to be solved overlapped perfectly. Tools for tool users by fellow tool users. Like all those little bespoke self made gizmos in my grandpa's old toolboxes.

[bitwize]

I get it now. The king of this school of thought:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra25c8-3I6w

It's a bit unusual to describe a disk utility's UI as absolute kino, but it fits for X-Copy. To understand X-Copy is to understand the Amiga.