[jmclnx]

Congratulations!

>Full support for the Wayland UI

I really hope they never deprecate X11 support :) I doubt they will, but if they do, it will leave the BSDs without a good alternative.

[zenoprax]

Unless I'm misunderstanding the problem, Wayland is available on FreeBSD.

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/wayland

[jmclnx]

Not all *BSDs is FreeBSD :)

A NetBSD posted a blog stating NetBSD is having issues porting Wayland due to Linux specific items. OpenBSD stated something similar.

Both articles indicated it will be a very long time, if ever, to get Wayland fully working on their systems. I did see this presentation that describes some issues as of 2025.

https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/talks/BSDCan2025-jeff_frasca-way...

[giancarlostoro]

Some people hate wayland.

[pjmlp]

Those people can contribute to Xorg server further development.

[bee_rider]

The thing that kicked off this thread was hope that vim will continue to support X11. No need for continued X development really.

[pjmlp]

On the contrary, because you will want to have those drivers when the time comes to reinstall the system with more modern hardware.

Without X Server support at the OS level for the new hardware, doesn't really matter if vim supports it on its source code.

[AlecSchueler]

But surely not every BSD user?

[giancarlostoro]

Not every BSD user, but the one you're responding to is most likely in that camp.

[AlecSchueler]

But then there's no BSD/Linux dichotomy as they suggested.

[bee_rider]

What is “the Wayland UI,” anyway? Is this like that vim gui program that some Windows users use?

Usually vim runs I’m the terminal, so I don’t have any worries about losing support. But other people have other use-cases, of course…

[hleszek]

Why would they do that? When I started learning VIM more than 20 years ago, one of the main reason was that it (or vi) was already present and installed in every possible Linux system.

[wpollock]

There's always TECO! <Joking>